Lower back soreness

[hjohnstone]

Not sure where to start with this, but here goes. About 2 weeks ago i was doing standing Barbell curls and i was doing them with incorrect form (i know, I've lowered the weight and everything is now perfect with the weights themselves). After the session a spot on my lower back was sore (no pain) and only if i cracked it or leaned back could i temporarily eliminate any soreness ( i know, a bad habit). The soreness was always there after a bicep workout, only less than it was after last weeks, and i only made the link 2 weeks ago, hence i have stopped these are do seated curls now with strict form and lighter weights. My question is really what could this be? Since 2 weeks ago (when i lost did that exercise with incorrect form i.e. arching my back very slightly, i can now feel mild soreness if i lean back. If i don't lean back or forwards significantly then i won't feel anything is wrong, other than when i get off a school chair after being there for an hour. The soreness is not quite on the tailbone (a little higher) and is now on the spine itself as opposed to on the spine and on the those two lumps people have either side of their spine. Any advice would be great on what this could be. It's getting better, but how long would you say? Would ultrasound do any good?

[alophysio]

hi,

No to the U/S - just use a hotpack if you want.

You probably have a strain but it is hard to tell.

I am also a cynic when it comes to exercise. If i had 1 cent for every patient that told me that they did their exercises with good form...but didn't, i would be rich!

When i do a workout, i need other people to watch and correct any habits i develop...and i have a high level of knowledge in this area!

Seated curls allow for lots of different and possible strenuous postures.

Hard to gues but you need to find someone who will look at your motor control of the hips/L/S.

Good luck

[jonathan_PTRP]

If you think your pain is in your lower back muscles then you can have hot packs and do some stretching.. and TENS will do.. But if you think your pain is in your lumbar spine then some Mckenzie and Williams can help.. Try to do some proper positioning exercise.. And one thing, when you're doing barbel curls or any exercise, try to wear spine supporter.. Hope that can help..

[alophysio]

Hi,

If you are doing heavy heavy weights, maybe a supporter belt would be appropriate but otherwise i would not bother because i would prefer you to learn how to hold your own posture in the correct position and train your muscles to support you properly - otherwise you will have to wear a belt every time you lifted something or even children who run and jump up for a cuddle!!

Cheers

[hjohnstone]

Originally Posted by alophysio

Hi,

If you are doing heavy heavy weights, maybe a supporter belt would be appropriate but otherwise i would not bother because i would prefer you to learn how to hold your own posture in the correct position and train your muscles to support you properly - otherwise you will have to wear a belt every time you lifted something or even children who run and jump up for a cuddle!!

Cheers

Totally agree mate, never saw the point in belts unless you want to be a silly power-lifter. The back soreness is nearly gone now to be honest. Thanks for all your help!

[Canuck Physio]

Originally Posted by hjohnstone

Not sure where to start with this, but here goes. About 2 weeks ago i was doing standing Barbell curls and i was doing them with incorrect form (i know, I've lowered the weight and everything is now perfect with the weights themselves). After the session a spot on my lower back was sore (no pain) and only if i cracked it or leaned back could i temporarily eliminate any soreness ( i know, a bad habit).
Was this the result of repeated flexion during the mid range of the motion ie. When the bar is out at arms length (elbow at 90degs) Where was your back, what position, did you notice strain or anything unusual? The reality is after seeing so many weight lifting injuries, this is very important to know

The soreness was always there after a bicep workout, only less than it was after last weeks, and i only made the link 2 weeks ago, hence i have stopped these are do seated curls now with strict form and lighter weights.
Be careful of using this statement 'strict form', it is a loosely used term that does not necessarily mean being free of injury.

My question is really what could this be? Since 2 weeks ago (when i lost did that exercise with incorrect form i.e. arching my back very slightly, i can now feel mild soreness if i lean back. If i don't lean back or forwards significantly then i won't feel anything is wrong, other than when i get off a school chair after being there for an hour. The soreness is not quite on the tailbone (a little higher) and is now on the spine itself as opposed to on the spine and on the those two lumps people have either side of their spine. Any advice would be great on what this could be. It's getting better, but how long would you say? Would ultrasound do any good?
This sounds very much like a facet joint problem, due to lack of Lspine stability before completely this high power and stability movement. Basically, you should not have been curling that heavy weight at that time, regardless of your form.

Will read more and resond appropriately

[neuromuscular]

Even now, Does it affect your breathing? If it does consider the serratus posterior inferior. You may have over extended and caught the serratus. If breathing is not affected then great if you are better.

Best regards,

Neuromuscular