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Old 27-09-2007, 03:42 PM
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Baby Bouncer

Hi there

I have a son who is 16 weeks. Fot at least 6 weeks he has shown great interest (and strength) in supported standing. ie on the floor, or someone's knees. I walked myself at 7 weeks- apparently I wasn't interested in crawling/sitting..just getting on my feet!!

we have purchased a 'Lindam' baby bouncer which I put him in once or twice a day..10 mins max. He loves this- can weight transfer, spin around.

As a physio, I think if he is showing he wants and can do it..then we shouldn't worry it is too early and could be damaging developmentally.

Does anyone have any evdence based research on early walking/standing in babies??

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Old 27-09-2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: Baby Bouncer

I do not know of any research about early walking etc but I do think that using a baby bouncer has very little to do with a natural way to stimulate abilities. You have to consider that a human being is not fully developed until 16-17 years of age (the brain is still developing til the age of 7-8). The physical development of a child is, at least in literature, closely related to to its mental/psychological development as so one can observe differences in development of children. One develop faster physically another mentally.
But understand well that a child doesn't need any help in the form of a baby bouncer to develop. In opposite one has to consider if the bones which are at that age not very bony but more or less cartilage like. But nowadays there is a tendency to let children read at an age which they should use for other things. Who cares?

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Old 28-09-2007, 04:28 PM
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Cool Re: Baby Bouncer

Hi all,

Actully i don't have an evedence for baby care

Mean while i didn't get what really did u mean by " bouncer"...but if u meant a car for babies with 4 wheels to be use at that so earliest age most probably would cause bowing for legs as neuropast said it's more cartilage than boney composition....!


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dear rachel,

I never recommend baby bouncers.( paediatric physiotherapist for 30 yrs and a mum)
When a child is able to move from horizontal to vertical itself would be the first time you are probably not doing any harm. I have never read any studies about baby bouncers. The most important people, who really know a lot about developmental neurology, are the ones to "ask". I suggest you start looking up(google of pubmed) prof. mijna hadders-algra´s work. She is a specialist in the development of truck and posture. if you can learn a little more about the natural development you might even throw the whole thing away.

When a child is as young as your child is, it still needs a amount of trunk support when being held vertical. Most children who have started to "standup" at such an early age are "standing on their reflexes". From 3-4 months(corrected) age reflex activity slowly changes into goal related movements.
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dear junior physiotherapist, if you want ot know what a babybouncer is go to www.youtube.com and type baby bouncers and you will find various films featuring babies in these bouncers.

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I never recommend baby bouncers.( paediatric physiotherapist for 30 yrs and a mum)
When a child is able to move from horizontal to vertical itself would be the first time you are probably not doing any harm. I have never read any studies about baby bouncers. The most important people, who really know a lot about developmental neurology, are the ones to "ask". I suggest you start looking up(google of pubmed) prof. mijna hadders-algra´s work. She is a specialist in the development of truck and posture. if you can learn a little more about the natural development you might even throw the whole thing away.

When a child is as young as your child is, it still needs a amount of trunk support when being held vertical. Most children who have started to "standup" at such an early age are "standing on their reflexes". From 3-4 months(corrected) age reflex activity slowly changes into goal related movements.
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dear junior physiotherapist, if you want ot know what a babybouncer is go to www.youtube.com and type baby bouncers and you will find various films featuring babies in these bouncers.

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Re: Baby Bouncer

Hi rowberryhatton,

I agree with Esther, that at that age standing is done through reflex activity, which I don't think should be encouraged. In relation with the baby bouncer, the epifisis of the bone (cartilage near the joint - sorry if misspelled..) is stimulated to grow on a particular area (medial or lateral) depending of the forces that are applied to it during early weight bearing (in crawling, kneeling, standing...), hence that babies have a physiological valgus first and corrects later. I'm not sure the bouncer is the most recommendable for this joint development. Appart from the irregular force on the bone, the hip joint is held on an abducted position.
Again, if you do it only for short periods mightn't be as bad, and he is gaining other sensory experiences. Still, if I had to give my professional advice I wouldn't recomend it or use it for my baby.
If you would like more information on developmental orthopeadics, pathways web page from Beverly Cusick is a good source of info. Do a search in google and it should come up.
Hope this helps. All the best.

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Re: Baby Bouncer

Hi,

I would agree with all the above.

Walking at 7 weeks? Are you sure?

Perhaps if you are keen to keep the walking up, a safer way would be to have your baby in the bath tub at least waist high to unload the bones.

I would like to see research into whether kids who don't crawl develop certain types of postures etc etc.

Interesting stuff.

In the end, is there an advantage for your child to "walk" earlier - as a parent of 3, i loved the fact that my kids couldn't get away quickly until the average 1 yr old!
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