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Old 12-04-2007, 05:39 PM
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Interferential Current for pregnant

Hi everybody,

Is Interferential Current safe for treating a 7 months pregnant women even if it is applied over her left shoulder?

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Old 12-04-2007, 05:58 PM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

Hey, just had a quick look in my electrotherapy book (Kitchen, 2002) and it says interferential is contraindicated in pregnant women over the abdomen only, so I'm guessing it's ok on the shoulder??
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Old 13-04-2007, 08:53 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

hi there is no problem with interferential over the shoulder. only abdomen and lumbar spine are contraindicated in pregnancy.

but just to be sure, why do you want to use the interferential? for decreasing muscle tone or pain relief?

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Old 13-04-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

Hello wutti,
Thank you for your kind replay. I use Interferential for pain relieve in that case. But let me ask a question. What is the evidence that Interferential is save for fetus if it is away from pelvic and abdomen? There are some postulates in physical therapy we say them but there is no evidence they are correct. Or what is the evidence it is not save to apply IFC on abdomen during pregnancy? Yes electrical current is dangerous on a tiny person but I think no one proved that. I say it is only an assumption as many things in physical therapy. In fact many assumptions need to be studied carefully.
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Old 15-04-2007, 09:47 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

You are indeed right ramywhite...

But are you going to be able to live with yourself if you are wrong???

A lot of things (like interferential) are simply not worth the risk. If interferential was the most marvellous therapy that could cure someone's pain when nothing else can help, it may be worth a risk.

But for simple musculoskeletal pain that can probably wait 2 more months, it is not worth the risk of having an unborn baby damaged possibly for the rest of their life.

There is not safe way to test these things without putting babies at risk. I personally prefer to sleep well at night...
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Old 15-04-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

I am totally agree with you, alophysio. As a matter of fact, I always refuse to apply IFC on pregnant women what ever the place on pelvic region or shoulder region.
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Old 15-04-2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

Here a look over the contra indications from the www.electrotherapy.org

It states that interferential should not be applied on Pelvis and trunk during pregnancy. I think application of interferentail on a joint that is not in close proximity with abdomen is safe.
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Old 17-04-2007, 05:58 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

It is not possible to exactly study the effects of Interferential currents on the foetus unless you experiment it on a foetus! Hence we have to go by the most sensible assumptions predicted.However I feel that animal studies should be encouraged give us more confidence in handling such issues. And If we assume that it is safe to apply in a part that is far away from the uterus---- How far? at what intensities? How far different intensities of the current has been recorded away from the site of treatment?

Assumptions are bad as ignorance unless proved!
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Old 17-04-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

Ok, we can spend time and money on research into this...but really. Aren;t there so many more things that we can do to help pregnant women??

Is interferential really that good that nothing works equally well or better?

Again, if interferential is the very best thing available, then we should devote time and money into researching it. But with the limited time and money we have, i am happy to just say don't use it around the trunk and pelvis and be done with it.

Don't you think?
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Old 20-04-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

I totally agree with alophysio. Its much better to get a peaceful sleep at night rather than experiment on a foetus. There are so many ways of reducing that pain. Just look for the cause of this pain & undo it. Most often what is needed in the last trimester is just posture care. Interferential is definitely not the best thing that happened to the physio profession for us to risk & harm a foetus, or spend time & money to research it.
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Old 23-04-2007, 05:06 AM
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Im quite surprised why would we want to stay away from research in these areas just because we asume the application of IFT to treatment of back pain in pregnancy alone??

These researches may prove fruitful in furure use of IFT during labor for pain reduction, and In case god knows even assisted contractions of the uterus!

I think it is our responsibility as physios to widen the horizon of our treatment modalities and think new, research more, rather than hiding safe behind assumptions.

We never know what potentials IFT has got untill we do animal research in these areas.

Let us not dismiss research in these areas becos we think of limited applications.
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Old 23-04-2007, 11:12 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

Hi,

I understand your point. However, to do research on this, you will eventually have to tell a pregnant women that you want to pass an electric field thru her body to assess whether it is dangerous or not.

I don't know any women at all willing to risk their babies for that kind of research.

Your point is well taken but even one mistake is a cost too high. Not for interferential. A cure for terminal cancer in the patient may be worth that risk but not for interferential.

That is only my opinion. I just think that people can better spend their time and money on more useful things. That is all.

As physiotherapists, we need to protect our domains. Honestly, you don't need to be a physiotherapist to use a machine. There are millions of people who operate machines every day. All you need is to teach them when to put it on and how to set the settings.

Our skills are in our minds and our thinking. We then implement the BEST course of action to help our patients. We are trying to solve the CAUSE of people's problems, not just the source and symptoms.

Mark my words, if we aren't careful and don't produce research to support all aspects of our work, we will be marginalised. We are small fry in a big ocean - there are plenty of people more than happy to take away our autonomy.

If you feel that strongly about researching I/F for pregnant women, why don't you start with animal experiments and if that is proven to be safe, then test it on your pregnant wife with your firstborn - if you aren't willing to do that then no-one else should be subjected to the experiments.

Besides, you won't get it past the ethics committees. Not at this stage.
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Old 23-04-2007, 12:47 PM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

It is better to avoid taking risk of applying Electrotherapy for a pegnant woman ,while there is strong evidence supports many techniques to deal with this problem .

The question is : why does this woman complains pain at her shoulder ??

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Old 24-04-2007, 04:05 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

we have already started animal research in this fields, infact we have even applied TENS for pain reduction during labor "Passed through the ethics commitee" after a series of animal trials and with consent of 6 women to pass 'electric field'.Though with non satisfactory results.

Iam confident that one day we will have enough animal research done and will be able to reduce pain during labor without running the risks associated with epidural anaethesia.

If we were able to research epidural anaethesia on pregnant women, application of ultrsonogram on pregnant women, paracetamol & ampicillin on pregnant women, which involve higher risks than IFT. I think it could be done.

And , since I already have a first born and too late for the second I think my daughter will reap the benefits of pain free labor wit IFT.
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Old 24-04-2007, 04:07 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

Anyway thanks for the varied opinions..Good luck
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Old 24-04-2007, 05:20 AM
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Re: Interferential Current for pregnant

My friend, let us know when you start the research!

My understanding of TENS is that is is fairly shallow and different to interferential which uses a interference pattern at higher frequencies to generate the effects in deeper tissues. For this reason, it MAY be seen to be potentially dangerous to a pregnant woman.

But good luck to you. I hope it goes well for your children - may they grow up to be strong and healthy and never need our treatment!!!
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Old 29-04-2007, 04:28 AM
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