The Physio Forum - the home of online physiotherapy discussion

Forum Home Physio Links Mark Forums Read
Go Back   The Physio Forum - the home of online physiotherapy discussion > Physiotherapy Discussion Areas, News and General Interest > Musculoskeletal/Outpatients
Register Top PostersBlogs FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 29-04-2001, 11:09 PM
Physio Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Age: 34
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
jgreen will become famous soon enough
re: proper prescription when using the swiss ball

To those who are experienced in prescribing the use of the swiss ball for individuals with LBP/decreased core stability (i.e. multifidus inhibition and/or atrophy):

From your experience do you feel that one would be able to achieve successful activation of the TA/multifidus by prescribing the use of a swiss ball (to soley gain activation) without out first achieving an active contraction of the TA/multifidus in more static positions (i.e crook lye/4pt kneel)???

For example, client who has been experiencing LBP, symptoms resolved (or nearly resolved), is told to buy a swiss ball and sit on it at home and or at the office instead of a chair. Instruction given on how to sit properly and to stabilize with lower abdomen.

Quest? will this provide adequate stimulus to automatically activate the TA/multifidus core stability

Any experienced feedback would be greatly appreciated!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-05-2001, 10:16 AM
Valued Contributer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Age: 50
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 17
Bazza will become famous soon enough
re: proper prescription when using the swiss ball

Dear J Geen
I am a chartered physio who uses the swiss ball on a daily basis both in clinical practice & exercise.

I feel that it is possible to achieve TrA/multifidus contraction when sitting on the ball as long as the patient has been shown how to find lsp neutral & providing that the ball is the correct size. Prof Janda has stated that the multifidus is very difficult to activate voluntarily, which means that the swiss ball is the ideal tool to achieve this as it is unstable. Swiss ball training & spinal stability is of special interest to me & I have been having very good results with using it on a variety of patients. I am hoping at some stage to do some research on the ball as there has been very little done to date. I have sold 5 balls for use as chairs for patients with lbp & each one has shown a huge improvement. I also feel that the ball is great when used prophalacticly,as Janda also states that if stability is increased by 50% it would reduce orthopaedic injuries by 80%
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-06-2001, 06:17 PM
Physio Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Age: 30
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
karlyfinlayson will become famous soon enough
re: proper prescription when using the swiss ball

any thoughs on ball prescription: burst vs anti-burst? and why as physios we are opting for the more dangerous choice?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-06-2001, 06:19 PM
Physio Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Age: 30
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
karlyfinlayson will become famous soon enough
re: proper prescription when using the swiss ball

I am sitting on a mediball at the moment (the only type of ball I would recommend to a patient- due to its static loading capacity and anti-burst quality---something any patient with lbp would appreciated to prevent further injuries).
I believe that isolated/static TA and MF contractions are not required previous to use of a swissball!
4pt kneeling/crooklying etc are not funtional positions; thus carryover to everyday tasks is minimal; little feedback is available outside clinic environment for beginners(when positions aren't functional); and dynamic isolation occurs with the use of a ball regardless - hence the whole unstable base theory behind the ball-(just try it!)
However, a patient does needs accurate size prescription in order to achieve correct postural alignment for muscle stabilisation, and thus needs to be taught this correct posture and/or exercises by experienced professionals. I believe the ball is a great tool, and approve of its use for both prevention and rehab, but understand its usefulness is limited without proper education of techniques etc.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-06-2001, 06:19 PM
Physio Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Age: 30
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
karlyfinlayson will become famous soon enough
re: proper prescription when using the swiss ball

Q. have many physios out there had much to do with paul chek courses etc?
what do you think of his ideas?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 27-06-2002, 12:50 AM
Physio Guru in the making
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Age: 65
Posts: 68
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 21
NARSTR will become famous soon enough
re: proper prescription when using the swiss ball

This can be tricky - some patients and PTs never really feel that they can 'get it right'. Bio feedback is helpful but I think it is moe useful to practise in isolation first. The person has to understand the theory and then increase awareness of TA and MF. If they are unsuccessful in this after trying hard, I would abandon movements in isolation and go for the swiss ball.
Incidentally, I am trying to teach martial arts instructor a) costal breathing and b)TA facilitation. Not going to be a success, I feel.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

  The Physio Forum - the home of online physiotherapy discussion > Physiotherapy Discussion Areas, News and General Interest > Musculoskeletal/Outpatients

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Swiss ball manual Bazza Orthopaedic Physiotherapy 1 27-09-2001 09:12 AM
swiss ball manual Bazza Musculoskeletal/Outpatients 1 20-06-2001 06:39 AM
swiss ball manual Bazza Sports Physiotherapy/Sports Medicine 0 29-05-2001 02:37 AM
swiss ball manual Bazza Orthopaedic Physiotherapy 0 29-05-2001 02:36 AM
Swiss ball and LBP imported_linda Musculoskeletal/Outpatients 6 06-05-2001 10:39 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:47 AM.


Member Specials

FREE Fully Functional Physio Practice Software
ClinicOffice PhysioLive Edition

Skeletal System Flexible Laminated Poster

Acland's Atlas of Human Anatomy 6 DVD Set

Advanced Myofascial Release DVD by Real Bodywork

The Muscular System Giant Chart

Beginning Myofascial Release DVD by Real Bodywork

Human Spine Disorders Anatomical Chart 2nd Edition Laminated

Nerve Mobilization DVD by Real Bodywork

Muscle Energy Techniques with DVD-ROM, 3rd Edition

Deep Tissue and Neuromuscular Therapy DVD, The Torso by Real Bodywork

Anatomy and Pathology for Bodyworkers DVD by Real Bodywork

Orthopedic Physical Assessment, 5th Edition by David J. Magee

Flexible Mr Thrifty Skeleton With Spinal Nerves

Your Complete Guide to Overseas Physical Therapy Career (E-Book)

Home Exercises and movement advice for Parkinson's Disease

Sports Taping DVD Series (The Collection) by Clinics in Motion

Clinical Assessment Collection (CD Version)

Travell & Simons' Trigger Point Manuals (Volumes 1 & 2)


Template-Modifications by TMS

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0