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Old 23-09-2008, 09:05 AM
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I need to lose weight, does heat help??

I need to lose weight to help heal injuries and to take the pressure off of my joints, i've been told wearing skins or under armour will help as it keeps your temperature higher?

but what difference does it make keeping your temp higher, does it help you lose weight quicker or train harder?
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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

Have a look over the WCPT article on managing obesity as an attched file with this reply.
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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

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I need to lose weight to help heal injuries and to take the pressure off of my joints, i've been told wearing skins or under armour will help as it keeps your temperature higher?

but what difference does it make keeping your temp higher, does it help you lose weight quicker or train harder?
I am sorry, but as a personal athletic instructor there are better (and safer) ways to lose weight (what weight fat or muscle or water)?

It is true that weight can be lost by wearing sweat suits, HOWEVER, Almost all of this weight is water weight sweated out by the body. Although exercising in warm environments enhances BMR, over heating can lead to excessive exertion, exhaustion, and fainting as well as hypoxia believe it or not! This is a dangerous idea, although I am sure under armour does not retain heat as much as perhaps you expect it to.
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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

the weight i need to lose is generally fat (stored on my abs), mainly to take some of the pressure off of my joints. I'm not obese or massively overweight but would be in much better shape if i could lose another stone maybe.

Have been training in the gym but have reached the stage where my joints, in particular my right hip joint starts to ache and throb before i have a chance to have a good workout. hence wanting to make my workouts as efficient as possible?

maybe i am doing the wrong sort of workout? are cross trainers, bikes and treadmills the right things to do, if so is one better than the other or should i do weights as well?

also doing some swimming, is this gonna help lose weight, or build muscle?
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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

If the weight you want to loose is water, heat might work.

Heat to the body may allow movement to be less painful, so that exercise is more enjoyable.

However, if the weight is due to girth in the abdominal area, you might try the APAS test, esp if you claim to have right hip pain.

Try an ASIS to ASIS with hip abduction directly lateral in the coronal plane If the one moves inferior (Most commonly the right), you have a difference of pelvic angles. This is a subject that has been poorly researched.

Next do the side of the inferior ASIS and do an ASIS to PSIS. The innominate bone should move into greater anterior rotation as the hip abduction increases directly lateral in the coronal plane.
You may have the opposite hip done with the ASIS to PSIS to see the difference of pelvic angle.

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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

Neuromuscular, would be useful to read some literature regarding the topic you are discussing quite fervently. Names are fine, I have significant journal access. Thanks
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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

There is no follow up information when it is a new idea.

The OGI is testing the idea in clinic and is preparing a research paper.

The research comes out of 15 years of in clinic by myself

I am partly retired in that I do only very difficult cases.

APAS is my own acronim for asymmetric pelvic angle syndrome.

There is little on pelvic angles except by Wendy Jardin of the Dalhousie University in Halifax (Canuck). However, she missed the importance of differring pelvic angles in that she did not have the people do hip abduction directly lalteral in the coronal plane. She took all readings at the anatomiclal neutral position frrom what I can gather, although I may be in error on this. I was taught to do pelvic angle assessment only at anatomical neutral. however, by accident I started to do the assessment at differring leg width stances and this is when the significance of the differring pelvic angles was seen.

Another significant detail was seen in that the correction for anterior rotation of the innominate bone did not come from the ipsilateral casue as is so often put forth. Try this: Do a digital pressure into the contralateral adductor longus. The anterior rotation will move to a more neutral position. The popiletus mand planterius lock the knee; therefore, the quads are not needed for standing posture You can take the quads of a standing person and move them lateral and medial. They are not activated in the standing position, because the knee is locked and they are not required to hold. Further, the anterior rotation of the innominate bone or inferior position of the ASIS in the supine p[atient the quads are not holding, but the adductor longus is in a state of guarding response.

The only way to prove or disprove this is not b reference material, but in clinic trial. Try it and compare your results to mine.

With a name like Canuck, you must have some ties to Canada.

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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

I will have a read of the various posts you have listed, however, as you can imagine the whole picture is not clear with random discussion posts, thus my query. Canuck indeed, just displaced at the moment
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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

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I will have a read of the various posts you have listed, however, as you can imagine the whole picture is not clear with random discussion posts, thus my query. Canuck indeed, just displaced at the moment
The problem with any new direction of research is that it is hard to get our mind around it.

Ola Grimsby was the first of the major instructors to see the value of the research.

Others are preoccupied with the SI joint and do not consider the bigger picture of innominate bone position as seen with the hip abduction test.

Hope that you enjoy your testing of the idea for yourself. That is what true research is.


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Re: I need to lose weight, does heat help??

I am sure there is someone more knowledge on this one then me but...I think it helps process food.... It helps break down fats and move them along.... and for me it helps me eat less because I feel "fuller" with the more water I drink...
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