Physiotherapy Status In India

[augustine]

Physiotherapy In India Is Really Pathetiqueeee... Nearly 90% Of The Physios Who Pass Out Are Involving Themselves In Bpo Jobs Which Gives More Money.

Truth Is That One Can Never Ever Imagine To Eke Out A Decent Living Out Of Physiotherapy Profession In India. This Is Basically Because Of Low Salaries, No Standardisation Of Salaries All Over The Country, No National Government Recognised Council.

Australia And America Are Leading The Growth Of This Profession By Introducing 'doctor Of Physical Therapy Program' Which Is Equivalent To Undergraduate Medical Course. As Usual India Is Lagging Behind In This Aspect Also.


I Would Like To Get Feedback From My Indian And International Collegues...

[asha]

I think the junior physios who pass out are themselves to blame for this. This is a country of vast potential where private practice is concerned. The saturation in private practice is not as bad as in the other medical fields. There is a lot of potential. But the youngsters are not prepared to work towards this. Learning the ropes of private practice, having good clinical hands, need patience. Nowhere in this world can you get such proffessional satisfaction as in this country, if you have the patience to work towards it. Most of them lack the neccessary direction, and expect success soon after they pass out. The other medical collegues go all out to scan fields where suitable private practice can be set up, do a lot of PR. The young physios are neither good at PR, nor are they willing to go beyond the street they live in to set up a practice, nor are they willing to accept that every thing in the book does not translate to the realty in clinical practice. One must look within ourselves before blaming the system. What have you yourself done to change?

[alophysio]

Hi,

Out of interest, how much would it cost to see a private physiotherapist?

I am from Australia and i have a patient from Mumbai who has ased me to come over and run periodic clinics, which would be nice because would love to see India etc but I also want to earn at least what i do here.

I would charge about AUD$80-100/half an hour or AUD$160-200/hour. XE.com tells me this is between ~2800INR to 3500INR or USD$120 - 160/hour. Would there be a market for this?

Obviously you would have to take my word that i am good enough to charge this amount of money!! My patient seems to think that it is possible due to the large numbers of millionaires in india (83000 according to some sources).

Is this all possible? If it is, then it makes helping underpriviledged people in India possible as well (I would have to cover my costs of travelling, accomodation, food and loss of income from my regular practice/job to do a trip like that).

please let me know

Thanks

[augustine]

junior physios who pass out are themselves to blame for this--GOOD QUOTE

HOW GOOD IS THE PHYSIO EDUCATION IN INDIA?THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED COUNCIL TO TAKE CARE OF THE QUALITY. THEN HOW DO YOU EXPECT THE FRESHERS TO DO PR AND DO SUCCESFUL PRIVATE PRACTICE?

I HAVE RESORTED TO 'EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICE' TO IMPROVE MY QUALITY.

[rjohnpaul]

Hi agustine.....
I am a physio trained in india ...currently i am in uk working as a sen 1 physio....there is no doubt that the academic curriculum in india is equal or even better than what they have around the world....There is lot of hardwork involved in the training and the foremost of all is the attitude .....no council can provide that.....so in short..its you who make yourself......stop blaming the system......and be focussed .....its great to see u following an eba.....hope others take that as an eg

[physiobob]

Originally Posted by augustine

I HAVE RESORTED TO 'EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICE' TO IMPROVE MY QUALITY.

Nice idea in theory but a bit scarey in practise. Can you not find a mentor out there with many years clinical experience? Perhaps form your own local interest group?

[physiobob]

Originally Posted by rjohnpaul

Hi agustine.....
I am a physio trained in india ...currently i am in uk working as a sen 1 physio....there is no doubt that the academic curriculum in india is equal or even better than what they have around the world.

As this is a very general comment can you be more specific. We know there are many, many private schools and from what we have learned from the many comments from Indian physio's we also know that the quality of training varies tremendously. Perhaps you can suggest some good schools you know of.

[asha]

Hi, alophysio this reply is to you. As regards whether there could be a market
for periodic clinics in India, your patient who has asked u over to india ,will have to tell you how many patients he can arrange for you. Only 1% of my work is referred & the rest is direct work. My work speaks for me & each patient refers patients. Very often a spine patient is not even seen by a orthopaedician. If the patient is beyond the limit of a physio I refer them for surgery / physician. In short one must have a patient base with our work. Where charges are concerned, after reading your charges I am of the opinion that I am financially as comfortable as you are in Australia. You have to take my word that I am good in my work & my charges are on the same line. And well, with 83000 millionairs one cant call a nation underpriviledged!!
If you come down here, do let me know. Iam from Mumbai. Best of luck.

[rjohnpaul]

hi dude...
all the curriculum is based on the basic line...ie ur anatomy,physiology,and clinical subjects etc....what u need is the ability to think logically and apply it clinically...of course a lot depends on the kind of exposure you get in the early days...but i reckon....its the application....well i trained in mangalore...a city in karnataka..india. Mlore has 12 physiotherapy colleges and we are all affiliated to Rajiv Gandhi University of Health science, Bangalore

[alophysio]

Hi Asha,

Thanks for your post.

I am sure you are as financially well off as i am. The reason why i asked the question is because whenever i speak to someone from india about how much i would have to charge, they tell me that it is way too much.

Does your statement mean that you are charging similar to what i am or does it mean that relative to the cost of living, the remuneration is similar? The reason i ask this is because I would have to cover my income lost in my currency. If i was living in India, then it would be relative.

The other thing is that i will be running education courses in the next few years or so. I have seen 2 day weekend courses for INR3500 which is about 150 dollars - this is nearly 4 times cheaper than what they are here!! That is, i would run a course for ~INR 14,000. Is this achievable? What is the average indian physio wage?

Thank you so much for your insight and information on your country and cultur. I would very much like to come to Mumbai to either see patients and/or deliver courses and show my family a little bit of a very different world!

[augustine]

This Is To Challenge Anyone Who Thinks Dat Physio Curriculum In India Is On Par With Anyother Curriculum In The World...can You Compare Indian Standard With American 'doctor Of Physical Therapy Course'? In What Do They Differ - In Quality Or In Terms Of Autonomy In Practice? I Would Say That It Is In Both Terms, They Differ.. My Intention Is Not To Put Down Indian Standard But To Make Others To Realise Where We Lack And Where We Lag Behind. Please Dont Have The Attitude To Deny The Inadequecies.
In India, Only When We Have The Separate Council We Will Have The Legal Possibilities Of Improving The Standards Of The Profession.

[cyberphysio]

Pathetic situation is not due to one person or system its combination of all.
Most therapist go out of profession to earn quick money in BPOs, Coding. There
one can earn easily 10,000 INR but as a therapist we have to fight for it. Not only we get low pay even for duty doctors (not specialty doctors) they also get low salary. Remember Indian physiotherapy is at infancy.
It is grown only for last 10 years or so before that physio treatment means traction, wax, few exercises but now Evidence based practice is order of the day. An infant should be treated as an infant, not compared with grown ups. It should be nursed carefully.

LONG LIVE PHYSIOTHERAPY
LIVE HAPPILY PHYSIOTHERAPIST

[megha masaun]

u r absolutely correct.

[rahul_physio83]

hey im a physiotherapist running my own physiotherapy, fitness & slimming centre in dehradun, india. i got call letter from south australia univ but left that bcoz i want to serve my country cant work for others. dont ever feel that working in india is bad. work to ur potential u wil get the results.

[rahul_physio83]

can anyone tell me wots the best option after BPT wot should i opt for while doing private practise. send me personal msg plz

[alophysio]

Hi - I would recommend the best option, if you want to go into private practice, is a Masters in Manual Therapy at University of Western Australia. The reason is because you can do 3 of the subjects externally - that is at home in your own time. The assignments obviously have time limits on them.

Then you come to Australia for 12 weeks where you do the practical part of the course.

This course is very popular with a lot of people from the UK and Ireland coming over to do it. Lots of Singaporean and HK physios as well. I am from Sydney and a lot of us are coming over to do it because of the high quality of the course and relatively low amount of weeks away from work.

Website is www.cms.uwa.edu.au